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Thursday, September 24, 2009

The Big Losers in Energy

Several people holding the purse-strings agree that algae, hydrogen vehicles, and carbon capture and storage won't make money.
By Kevin Bullis

There wasn't much consensus about the most promising energy technologies, but everyone at a panel on the future of energy at the EmTech conference at MIT this morning seemed to agree that three energy-related technologies won't make money, at least not in the current economic and regulatory environment.

Heading the list of losers is photosynthetic algae--technology that would use algae to convert sunlight into fuel. Jim Matheson, a general partner at Flagship Ventures, said "we just don't believe the economics." Although the venture capital firm invests heavily in bio-energy technology, "we just haven't gotten very comfortable that algae is going to come down the cost curve."

BP also doesn't like photosynthetic algae. "We don't think that [technology] will ever reach the kind of cost or supply that we think people are prepared to pay," said David Eyton, the head of research and technology at BP. His statement was a direct challenge to a main BP competitor, Exxon-Mobil, which recently announced an investment of $600 million in photosynthetic algae.

Eyton noted that BP is investing in algae--just not the photosynthetic kind. Some companies are developing technology that use algae to convert sugar, instead of sunlight, into fuel and other products. That's easier to scale up, since the algae can be far more concentrated.

Hydrogen, at least for vehicles, was also panned. That's perhaps not surprising given Energy Secretary Steven Chu's recent comments about hydrogen. Then again, the car companies have been clamoring for continued investment in it. Uma Chowdry, senior vice president and chief science and technology officer at DuPont said the company had killed its research on hydrogen storage "because it's very far away." Eyton said BP had also killed its investment in hydrogen for transportation.

And finally, technology for capturing and storing carbon dioxide doesn't look promising. The technology could be key to reducing carbon emissions, but Chowdry said, "We can't figure out how we're going to make money at it." Eyton noted that "it's tough to make it work, when nobody's putting a price on it."

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  • Any data on Jathropha Curcas?
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    • Re: Any data on Jathropha Curcas?
      Turns out it isn't as good as hoped - takes too much water, too low yield if not grown in good (arable land) conditions.
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  • Why is it that Price becomes the #1 factor when you need something done now
    I for one would like to know what exactly are the experts and investors looking for in a profitable TOTALLY NEW energy or environmental technology. I mean do they really know what is profitable when no one has clean air to breath, or when petroleum finally stops flowing at the rate it is now. Give me a break, when their gas powered cars and SUV's break down, I'll wave as I pass them by with my fuel cell car covered in solar panels.
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  • Opinions are like...
    So three people at a conference think that photosynthetic algae, hydrogen and carbon capture are "losers". Now, if this were my job, I think I would call up three people who might have different opinions, say, execs, scientists or engineers who work in algae biofuels, hydrogen or carbon capture, and ask them what they think. But that would just be me...
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  • Natural Gas and Biogas
    Natural gas finds and biogas successes have changed the energy picture. It will be more difficult for all other fuels and technologies to compete with low natural gas prices. Natural gas has ended any thoughts of an energy crisis. Turns out the only energy crisis was due to manipulation. Natural gas is clean and cheap. Existing vehicles can be converted to run off of it.
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    • Re: Natural Gas and Biogas
      Burning natural gas releases just as much carbon as other fossil fuels.  Nowadays we know that is not compatible with "clean".
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